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[2:34] <Simeon_H> hey wered gregoire go?
[2:37] <dpb> hyc said he's on the road somewhere
[2:38] <Simeon_H> damn it I think I drank too many vodka + passionfruit flavoured sodas
[2:39] <Simeon_H> typing is becoming increasingly difficult
[2:40] <Anges> Simeon_H: you shouldn???t write that on a logged channel ;)
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[2:44] <dpb> Someone could report the channel to the Freenods ops, because it's stated that public logging should be informed in the channel topic...
[2:45] <Simeon_H> bah it's close enough
[2:45] <dpb> and viridior isn't doing anything about it, I guess he doesn't have highlights on..
[2:45] <Simeon_H> I want a touchbook :|
[2:45] <Simeon_H> but I'm poor
[3:14] <Simeon_H> chromium builds on ARM btw
[3:14] <Simeon_H> it'd make a nice little browser for the touchbook
[3:14] <Simeon_H> I think
[3:21] <honk> chomium isnt even good on x86 ;P
[3:23] <Simeon_H> honk
[3:24] <Simeon_H> don't make me slap you over the internet
[3:24] <honk> well.. it's true, isnt it? ;)
[3:24] <Simeon_H> it's fairly stable now if that's what you mean
[3:25] <Simeon_H> I think they just fixed java support
[3:25] <Simeon_H> so I'm updating
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[3:39] <jvs> I'd like to go with fennedc
[3:39] <jvs> *fennec
[3:39] <jvs> although tb owners say it doesn't perform well on the tb
[3:39] <Simeon_H> yeah fennec is nice
[3:40] <dpb> I'd like some small webkit based browser.
[3:40] <Simeon_H> dpb chromium is webkit based
[3:40] <Simeon_H> :3
[3:40] <dpb> But it isn't small.
[3:40] <Simeon_H> yeah.... it's fast though
[3:40] <dpb> And it uses the ugly old UI design for browser.
[3:41] <Simeon_H> fennec for tablet mode
[3:41] <jvs> chromium?
[3:41] <Simeon_H> chromium for keyboard mode
[3:41] <Simeon_H> google chrome
[3:41] <Simeon_H> the open source version of it
[3:41] <dpb> jvs: of course fennec doesn't perform well, it doesn't anywhere, it's quite buggy software still..
[3:42] <jvs> dpb, well, it could perform well until it crashed :)
[3:43] <dpb> anyway, it has nothing to do with the tb that it doesn't perform well ;)
[3:43] <dpb> that's just fennec
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[3:44] <jvs> I didn't want to say that
[3:44] <dpb> :)
[3:45] <dpb> so you'd rather say that TB is buggy?
[3:46] <jvs> nope, I just heard it's not usable as you expect it to be
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[5:29] <viridior> dpb: what seems to be the problem?
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[6:02] <dpb> viridior: 1. could you add some topic here, including a bit about this channel logging chat publicly. 2. could you give gregoire channel op access so some official touchbook person has access to change topics etc.
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[6:07] <viridior> dpb: sure
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[6:17] <shiznebit> any try tether to their android phone ?
[6:17] * ChanServ sets mode +o viridior
[6:18] <shiznebit> is it fast or really slow ?
[6:18] * viridior changes topic to 'This is the Always Innovating Touch Book IRC channel! You can find out more at the official website, http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/ This channel is not publicly logged at this time.'
[6:19] <shiznebit> well thanks viridior
[6:19] <shiznebit> was that really necessary
[6:19] <viridior> np, busy with some other stuff... been lacking here... just reorganized Gentoo Pandora to Neuvoo -> http://neuvoo.org
[6:20] <viridior> dpb: ive already let gregoire know that he and all devs will have channel ops, we just haven't been on at the same time :/
[6:21] <shiznebit> viridior whats stage 3 again ?
[6:23] <viridior> stage3 is a basic system without a kernel, bootloader, and a couple other tools. Basically its the core of a system similar to what you would have after going through the LFS manual.
[6:23] <viridior> a stage3 is enough of a system to build the rest
[6:25] <shiznebit> so its ready to go
[6:26] <viridior> basically, one you add a kernel and bootloader, and a couple other tools you can boot and get to a command prompt (stage3 has things like coreutils, debianutils, util_linux, gcc, glibc, etc, etc)
[6:26] <viridior> s/one/once
[6:27] <shiznebit> viridio
[6:27] <shiznebit> do you know how nokia is able to do flash ?
[6:28] <viridior> not directly, i doubt nokia does much of anything except have a contract with Adobe to build it for their system
[6:28] <viridior> thats some $$$$
[6:29] <shiznebit> could we use their binary in our system ?
[6:29] <viridior> talking about the n900 one?
[6:29] <shiznebit> yea
[6:30] <viridior> assuming it doesn't do any system checks i dont see why not. It is linux based, but I don't know yet what libraries they are using. If they are compatible it might just be copying them into a tarball and redistributing (if your not worried about licensing...)
[6:31] <dpb> Yeah, you'll probably be violating the license if you do that.
[6:32] <shiznebit> adobe's or nokia's ?
[6:32] <dpb> adobe's
[6:32] <dpb> Nokia is probably licensing flash from Adobe on a per device bases
[6:33] <dpb> and anyway, it's an old flash 9.. lots of stuff in the net is becoming flash 10 based..
[6:33] <shiznebit> yea
[6:33] <shiznebit> but most websites will still run on 9.4
[6:34] <shiznebit> video might not
[6:35] <shiznebit> or is it the other way ?
[6:36] <dpb> anyway, always innovating probably has some plan for that already
[6:37] <viridior> i hope, i doubt its cheap
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[6:37] <viridior> ls
[6:37] <viridior> :/
[6:38] <viridior> too many consoles open at one time ;)
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[6:39] * viridior ducks and weaves
[6:39] * viridior gets hit squarely in the forehead
[6:39] * viridior damn you 'cd ~'
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[6:40] <dpb> Running gentoo on a touchbook gives me the creeps though... *shivers*
[6:41] <shiznebit> why ?
[6:42] * viridior raises eyebrow
[6:42] <viridior> must be difficult to handle the awesomeness of it ;)
[6:42] <viridior> i shiver sometimes myself :)
[6:42] <dpb> compiling on an sd-card..
[6:42] <viridior> why would you?
[6:43] <dpb> because that's what the touchbook uses?
[6:43] <viridior> sure
[6:43] <viridior> i guess you could use a USB stick also if you wanted to
[6:44] <viridior> either way, why would you compile on the TB?
[6:44] <dpb> because it's Gentoo?
[6:44] <viridior> sure, still missing your point
[6:45] <dpb> defeats the point of the whole distro it if you don't compile it
[6:45] <viridior> if *you* want to compile on it that ok, but why not let *me* compile it for you
[6:45] <viridior> Gentoo allows binary repos, its just not generally set
[6:45] <shiznebit> what if you make a mistake ?
[6:46] <dpb> If I want binaries, I'll use a distro made for that. Like Debian or Ubuntu.
[6:46] <viridior> Debian/Ubuntu/RedHat/SuSe make mistakes all the time ;)
[6:46] <viridior> dpb: I see, since Gentoo allows you the flexibility of either way... you shouldn't try it
[6:46] <shiznebit> debian mistakes really ?
[6:47] <viridior> i heard a rumor once
[6:48] <viridior> in /etc/make.conf -> EMERGE_OPTS="--getbinpkg" PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://path/to/binaries"
[6:48] <viridior> done, its just like Debian
[6:48] <viridior> except you dont have a year delay in getting the *new* software
[6:48] <shiznebit> right
[6:49] <viridior> dpb: maybe you will like to take a look after we have something to show for ourselves ;)
[6:49] <dpb> You're going to provide binaries for every package out there, and actually keep them up to date all the time? Good luck in that.
[6:49] <viridior> dpb: i also can use .bb, Gentoo supports bitbake, and apt, and rpm
[6:50] <dpb> well bitbake is even worse than emerge. :P
[6:50] <viridior> so yes, i will support all of them
[6:50] <viridior> dpb: i agree with that ;)
[6:50] <viridior> but, it is easier to get a package built
[6:51] <dpb> anyway, off now ->
[6:52] <viridior> later
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[9:42] <dpb> viridior: oh, now I read the topic you set.. this channel IS logged, the topic says it isn't. ;o
[9:45] <viridior> dpb: who is logging it? not me
[9:45] <viridior> wb, btw
[9:50] <dpb> viridior: gregoire
[9:50] <viridior> where? he asked me, but i haven't done it yet... unless he has already
[9:50] <dpb> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/irclog/
[9:50] <dpb> he has already
[9:50] <viridior> ah, ill change the topic
[9:51] <dpb> :)
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[22:01] <killring> has anyone who currently has a tb tried running it with the battery disconnected?
[22:06] <hyc> huh? running without the battery?
[22:08] <killring> yep.. just curious to see if the tb will operate correctly with the battery disconnected and plugged in
[22:10] <killring> I tend to run my hardware well past the point of the battery's lifetime and it's usually not worth the cost for a new one so I just yank the battery and keep using my devices... just curious if the tb will operate in that mode
[22:16] <hyc> dunno, but I don't see why not.
[22:18] <killring> just an idle question on my part while I wait / decide if the gen 1 is for me
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[23:26] <Corsac> hey there
[23:27] <dpb> Hi
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[23:44] <Anges> hi
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