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[0:23] <virtual-penguin> anyone around?
[0:24] <dpb> No.
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[0:28] <virtual-penguin> hehe
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[1:58] <fooq> so any european non-vip tb so far?
[1:58] <Corsac> nop
[1:59] <fooq> i see. not the best of all news
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[6:12] <koen> hyc: FWIW, the xv colourkey needs to get redrawn to allow gnome-mplayer to do its work
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[6:23] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, unfortunately one of our former developers has left behind a memory leak in our ircd software which means we'll need to restart several ircds over the next few days. We're going to stagger it to reduce disruption, and the first round will be happening very shortly. Affected users for now will be about 1300. Apologies for the inconvenience!
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[7:10] <dpb> Tiffany_Fe: What's up with your many clients?
[7:10] <Tiffany_Fe> I keep getting disconnected
[7:10] <Tiffany_Fe> and irc takes awhile to figure out I got disconnected
[7:10] <Tiffany_Fe> I actually only have one client
[7:11] <dpb> You must have a poor ISP..
[7:12] <Tiffany_Fe> -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, unfortunately one of our former developers has left behind a memory leak in our ircd software which means we'll need to restart several ircds over the next few days. We're going to stagger it to reduce disruption, and the first round will be happening very shortly. Affected users for now will be about 1300. Apologies for the inconvenience!
[7:12] <Tiffany_Fe> I think this is my problem
[7:13] <dpb> I don't think so. It's just you.
[7:13] <Tiffany_Fe> sorry
[7:13] <Tiffany_Fe> just that my internet has been a bit flaky the past week
[7:14] <Tiffany_Fe> for some reason
[7:14] <dpb> Got any torrents downloading? (those often disturb irc if they're not limited)
[7:14] <Tiffany_Fe> I did have some torrents running
[7:15] <Tiffany_Fe> they weren't dling anything anyway
[7:15] <Tiffany_Fe> just seeding
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[7:15] <dpb> well the seeding is the disturbing part :)
[7:16] <dpb> with some torrent programs, you can limit the bandwidth it uses, otherwise it'll use all you have and then irc and other services don't get enough
[7:17] <Tiffany_Fe> hopefully that will stop it
[7:17] <Tiffany_Fe> I closed bittorrent
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[8:05] <yoru> hi
[8:05] <spvensko> hi
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[8:54] <Corsac> what's mediaportal?
[8:55] <Corsac> (and at least you received your shipping mail???)
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[9:35] <doc__> Macer: take a look at mythtv if you want to use it with the touchbook
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[12:28] <doc__> macer: us or international order
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[12:43] <shiznebit> MaceN8x0: where do you live?
[12:47] * shiznebit orders a plain ticket to Chicago to intercept the delivery
[12:48] <shiznebit> noo just USPS
[12:48] <shiznebit> ;)
[12:56] <azaghal> /msg shiznebit Offer him a free beer to meet with you, tell him to bring TouchBook to show you, take him to dark alley, then whack him silly and take the thing...
[12:56] <azaghal> Whoops...
[12:56] <azaghal> ;)
[12:56] <shiznebit> nice job assassin
[12:56] <azaghal> Heheh
[12:56] <azaghal> It was on purpose :)
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[13:09] <snlemons> so, from the videos I've seen it looks like the TouchBook might be a bit top-heavy when connected to the keyboard. does the tablet part shake badly when typing, riding on a bus/plane, etc., or is it pretty stable?
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[13:19] <Q_Continuum> I don't have one yet myself, but I figured with the larger battery in the keyboard that it was stable.
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[13:21] <snlemons> Q_Continuum: I'd hope that, too, although the issue is more the stability of the folding bit, right?
[13:21] <Q_Continuum> Which is built into the keyboard, but yes
[13:22] <snlemons> I mean, my current laptop has a much heavier base than screen, but the connecting joint is old and worn, so it bounces when I type or an officemate taps his foot too hard. :)
[13:22] <snlemons> Q_Continuum: right. built into the keyboard or not, it could still be unstable.
[13:22] <Q_Continuum> Well, if it wears out, you order a new keyboard - weren't they going to be about $100?
[13:22] <snlemons> Q_Continuum: but if they _start out_ unstable, what option do I have?
[13:22] <Q_Continuum> Then you get a fresh battery to boot (presuming we can't just order the frame, sans battery)
[13:23] <Q_Continuum> I don't think they're unstable, the videos I've seen it seems like a solid hinge.
[13:23] <snlemons> Q_Continuum: can you point me at one that indicates this? I've only seen the mounted version in one official video, and it looked a tad shaky there.
[13:24] <Q_Continuum> Looking
[13:24] <snlemons> Q_Continuum: the one I'm referring to is on the gallery as "TouchBook in action"
[13:25] <snlemons> could easily be shaky picture on the camera, too, so I thought I'd ask if anyone had evidence to the contrary
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[13:43] <snlemons> something up, MaceN8x0?
[13:44] <snlemons> saw the "hm" and thought maybe you had something to say about my question.
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[13:45] <doc__> I think the "hm" was him thinking about how to ship his touchbook to the poor international people :)
[13:46] <doc__> Already though of that, unfortunately it is now in the "if I would have known category"
[13:49] <doc__> even tried the "have tools will assemble request" but didn't get a response
[13:50] <hyc> I've found that when using the TB as a laptop, it's best to just open it flat and work with it on my lap.
[13:50] <hyc> the unit is so small that opened at a "typical" work angle 90-100 degrees you would have to have eyes in your stomach to read the screen.
[13:51] <hyc> so anyway, there's no stability issue when using it this way
[13:52] <snlemons> hyc: interesting technique. is it shaky, otherwise?
[13:52] <hyc> yes, a bit
[13:52] <snlemons> for instance, my desk is a bit wobbly. will I get dizzy? :)
[13:52] <hyc> heh, dunno about that
[13:52] <hyc> I don't really work on a desk, always on my lap
[13:53] <snlemons> ah, yeah the lap idea sounds neat. would never have thought of it. too habitual, I guess. :)
[13:53] <snlemons> MaceN8x0: the question was whether the TB was wobbly/shaky when used as a laptop.
[13:55] <doc__> it may work ok flat on the desk as well
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[15:07] <Corsac> Subject: Always Innovating: Your order #xxxxx has been processed
[15:07] <Corsac> \o/
[15:08] <hyc> ooo, first transatlantic order
[15:08] <hyc> congrats, Corsac
[15:09] <Corsac> eheh
[15:09] <Corsac> now, I don't know how long it'll take for usps
[15:09] <hyc> what city are you in?
[15:10] <hyc> international priority mail usually takes 1 week
[15:10] <hyc> longer if you're far from a major metro
[15:10] <derken> and another happy european!
[15:10] <derken> Dear Mr. Dave Erken,
[15:10] <derken> Your order has been processed successfully.
[15:10] <Corsac> France
[15:10] <Corsac> derken: \o/
[15:10] <Corsac> hyc: in Paris
[15:10] <derken> I'm from Eindhoven
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[15:11] <hyc> Corsac: sounds like you'll get it within a week then
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[15:12] <Brizzyce> I just got my order processing confirmation!
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[15:12] <blunderer> got THE email
[15:12] <blunderer> finally
[15:13] <derken> haha they've been busy at AI today :)
[15:13] <Brizzyce> me too :D
[15:13] <hyc> busy the last few days I'd say
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[15:13] <Brizzyce> I was sort of surprised to get one, I pre-ordered in July from Canada
[15:13] <hyc> then it sounds like they're catching up on the backlog, cool
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[15:14] <blunderer> yes this september batch seems to be pretty huge
[15:14] <Q_Continuum> I think they said by Oct they were planning on being all caught up on pre-orders, so yes
[15:15] <blunderer> they said they were trying to catch up much of the pre-orders
[15:16] <Q_Continuum> They're able to ramp up production now that they're confident in the build
[15:18] * blunderer can't wait to play with the precious
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[15:23] * Q_Continuum wishes he could have a precious
[15:25] <pliny> Speaking of preciousses... Don't suppose anybody here got into Wave?
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[15:45] <hyc> ah, 2009-09.c is now on the web site
[15:45] <hyc> I think they must be near finished with this month's shipment then
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[15:55] <doc__> finally they are shipping to the other State as well (Canada).
[15:55] <doc__> I guess I no longer need to borrow Macer's :)
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[17:23] <Navi> Hey, is there a number where I can contact Always Innovating at?
[17:23] <Navi> I was charged without prior notification, and now I have a glaring deficit in my bank account without any real way of paying it off, and impending overdraft fees
[17:24] <Navi> so I want to resolve this as fast as possible
[17:25] <yoru_> means, that you will get your touchbook.
[17:26] <yoru_> and try to contact them here: http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/company/contact.htm
[17:26] <Navi> I don't want it. I'm trying to reach them before it shipps
[17:26] <yoru_> great idea. ordering without wanting the product :P
[17:26] <Navi> I put in a preorder back in March
[17:27] <Navi> Things have changed since then.
[17:27] <yoru_> should have contacted them when they changed
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[17:27] <Navi> Yeah, I should have. Forgot, though
[17:27] <Navi> It was ages ago
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[17:29] <Q_Continuum> Yeah, I'd love to order, but I haven't the $$$
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[18:19] <shtylman> whooooooooo finally got my order processing email!!
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[18:20] <drantin> last email I have from them is from May 11 :/
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[18:44] <kdas> hello all
[18:44] <kdas> any one alice?
[18:44] <kdas> alive*
[18:45] <drantin> maybe
[18:45] <kdas> sweet
[18:45] <drantin> maybe not
[18:45] <kdas> umm is the touch book a concept or a real thing?
[18:45] <kdas> all i see is rendered photos
[18:46] <drantin> kdas: then you aren't clicking in the right places, or looking at the videos
[18:47] <drantin> also, the real photos have the backgrounds taken out, so they can appear to be renderings :/
[18:47] <kdas> i saw the videos but i mean if i buy one will it ship out or do i have to wait hella fo rit ?
[18:48] <kdas> is there a specs page to show all the i/o ports and cpu etc?
[18:48] <kdas> what you guys use for flash gnash cuz last time i checked adobe don't have no flash player for arm
[18:48] <drantin> you can order now, but there'll be some time until it gets fulfilled
[18:49] <drantin> there's a shipment going out soon, and another next month
[18:49] <yoru> probably gnash, yes.
[18:49] <yoru> at least not adobe flash
[18:49] <drantin> but it's not mass-produced like HP, Dell, etc do
[18:49] <yoru> and: http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/ helps
[18:49] <yoru> you will find he specs etc.
[18:50] <drantin> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/gallery_photo.htm are real photos, but the backgrounds are edited out for some reason :/
[18:52] <kdas> yoru, i don't see the specs anywhere could you give me a link
[18:53] <drantin> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/info.htm
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[18:55] <kdas> ummm no videocard specs
[18:56] <shiznebit> it has enough to play Quake3
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[18:59] <yoru> http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Touch_Book_specs
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[19:01] <kdas> yoru, nice thanks
[19:02] <yoru> OpenGL?? ES 2.0 capable 2D/3D graphics accelerator capable of rendering 10 million polygons per second
[19:02] <yoru> HD video capable TMS320C64x+??? DSP for versatile signal processing at up to 430MHz
[19:02] <kdas> nice
[19:02] <yoru> that should be it. or something alike
[19:02] <kdas> now it just sucks that i would have to wait hella long
[19:03] <kdas> you think they would upgrade the processor to cortex a9 anytime soon ?
[19:03] <yoru> i heard today, that most, if not all, pre-orders should be filled at end of october
[19:03] <yoru> no
[19:03] <yoru> not anytime soon.
[19:03] <yoru> the touchbook just started shipping
[19:03] <kdas> oh this is the first shipment?
[19:03] <kdas> i should wait then
[19:03] <yoru> second?! dont know
[19:04] <yoru> this month and one before i think
[19:04] <yoru> stil, its just at the start of its life
[19:04] <kdas> well i hope that it will kick ass cuz i love arm
[19:08] <kdas> why does it list the batteries as removable ? do they not charge? or is it just so you can replace them?
[19:08] <yoru> you can replace them in case they die in the forseeable future
[19:08] <yoru> so: they charge
[19:11] <kdas> one last question... are all the i/o ports on the tablet or the keyboard?
[19:11] <yoru> dont know. i think on the tablet(at least the external.) but I dont know. you would have to ask someone, who has a touchbook
[19:12] <pliny> The only thing in the Keyboard is the keyboard and a big-ass battery. Everything else is in the Tablet.
[19:12] <kdas> oh sweet so the tablet has a 10hr battery or is that the keyboard?
[19:13] <yoru> both together
[19:13] <yoru> the tablet alone has 3-5 hours
[19:13] <kdas> oh...
[19:13] <yoru> if you put it on the keyboard, if gets more
[19:13] <kdas> naturally
[19:13] <kdas> well i cna't wait till the orders get shipped out so i can buy one i am very excited
[19:14] <pliny> Tablet batt is 6000mAh and Keyboard is 12000 mAh
[19:14] <pliny> People with the devices in hand are reporting 8-10 hours under normal workloads. Power management has not yet been enabled in the current kernels.
[19:14] <kdas> i bet you all that havent got yours yet are hell eager
[19:14] <kdas> pliny, i am a linux dev i hope to contribute ;)
[19:15] <kdas> does any one here actually have one yet ?
[19:15] <pliny> You'll want to look at Open Embedded, then. TB OS is a customised Angstrom Linux.
[19:15] <yoru> since most are idle, there should be some :P
[19:15] <pliny> Was hoping mine would show up today... I'm guessing tomorrow based on previous experience with USPS.
[19:15] <yoru> but in the next days, there should be many more, who get theirs
[19:16] <kdas> cool
[19:16] <kdas> i will try to port archlinux over
[19:16] <kdas> otherwise just work with tb os
[19:16] <yoru> arch would be cool. but im more excited at android and chrome os :P
[19:17] * kdas pukes on chrome os
[19:17] <hyc> android sucks
[19:17] <hyc> I'm porting AI angstrom to my G1. :P
[19:17] <pliny> You might want to check the forum. There's already people mucking with *buntu Arm and Gentoo.
[19:17] <kdas> yak ubuntu and gentoo
[19:17] <kdas> debian i think supports arm
[19:18] <kdas> that would be a good alternative
[19:18] <hyc> cortex-A9 doesn't exist yet
[19:18] <kdas> ummm last time i checked it did?
[19:18] <hyc> but probably by the time they become available next year, it will be worth talking about
[19:18] <hyc> there are 90nm test chips
[19:18] <hyc> no 454nm production chips anywhere
[19:18] <hyc> 45
[19:18] <kdas> right
[19:18] <pliny> kdas: The tricky bit is optimisation. It's not just compiling for Arm, but also dgetting the most out of the DSP...
[19:19] <kdas> tb os is opensource right ?
[19:19] <kdas> pliny, yea well thats why we here ;)
[19:19] <hyc> it's angstrom, yes.
[19:19] <hyc> you just download openembedded and you can build it all yourself. I already have
[19:20] <pliny> Mostly. All the stuff from OE is open, There's some blobs from TI I think, and some of the AI stuff hasn't been licensed open, but probably will be when they get a spare five seconds.
[19:20] <hyc> there are a few AI custom bits but they've published those
[19:20] <hyc> most of their custom stuff is written in python anyway, so you can just read it yourself from the installed image
[19:23] <kdas> cool
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[23:48] <dpb> Order processed \o/
[23:51] <fooq> yeah?
[23:51] <fooq> kewl
[23:51] * drantin sniffles
[23:54] <dpb> Yep.
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