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[0:37] <drantin> is it safe to use ipkg to install stuff from the repo with the current version of ai os?
[0:41] <drantin> although, all I'm really looking for atm is a cjk font...
[0:48] <gregoiregentil> unfortunately, not really
[0:48] <gregoiregentil> because we have a different version of glibc...
[0:48] <gregoiregentil> it's a little bit unfortunate
[0:53] <drantin> ah, well... I can install the fonts manually too... I just like having things tracked by the package manager as it makes updates and removal so much easier...
[1:02] <drantin> hm, downloading font-jis-misc and installing it directly doesn't pull any glibc updates :D
[1:03] <drantin> tested with -noaction first, of course
[1:03] <drantin> the relevant ipk from the angstrom site that is
[1:06] <drantin> it also appears to have placed the fonts where they went with older versions of X...
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[2:00] <drantin> ok, dumping kochi-mincho.ttf into /usr/share/fonts/truetype and restarting any apps that need it worked without doing anything else...
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[2:36] <leinir> which means that ipkg needs to not be there...
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[4:25] <jvs> steif
[4:25] <jvs> I meant steve
[4:25] <jvs> and sry, wrong channel
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[6:11] <Guest79208> I thought I saw a statement that the AI wiki didn't reqire login?
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[7:35] <gregoiregentil> too much spam on the wiki. Needs login to edit
[7:38] <Corsac> that's fine, imho
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[8:05] <Guest79208> Okay with me too, except I thought it had been indicated otherwise.
[8:08] <jvs> gregoiregentil, are there forum user you trust?
[8:08] <jvs> so you could promote them to moderators
[8:08] <jvs> ?
[8:08] <jvs> or are there other plans to prevent spam/abuse in the forums?
[8:11] <gregoiregentil> jvs: need to think. We managed well the wiki (which seems very clean to me now), but we didn't spend enough time on the forums. It's on the todo list
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[8:12] <jvs> well, you could also interview people who want to moderate the forums
[8:13] <jvs> or put some guidelines online
[8:13] <gregoiregentil> yup... I see your point :-)
[8:13] <jvs> ok, I'm quiet :)
[8:13] <gregoiregentil> np
[8:17] <Guest79208> jvs: do moderators have delete privs?
[8:17] <jvs> that depends on AI
[8:17] <jvs> but usually, if there are guidelines, yes they do
[8:18] <jvs> they act according these guidelines
[8:19] <Guest79208> jvs: the question was more about whether the software allows it than policy. I assume that's a yes
[8:19] <jvs> if all other means fail, they will edit/delete
[8:19] <Guest79208> ah
[8:19] <jvs> Guest79208, yes the software does allow that
[8:19] <gregoiregentil> it's a yes
[8:21] <jvs> Guest79208, but most of the time they move messages, that have been posted in the wrong category
[8:22] <jvs> or close threads if they are duplicates
[8:23] <jvs> anybody here from europe, who already received his/her touchbook?
[8:23] <Guest79208> Ok, just curious. I've seen spam that could easily e controlled with delete privs
[8:23] <jvs> Guest79208, I know what you mean
[8:25] <Guest79208> I'm glad AI has so many avenues of support/info. Some suit me more than others
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[8:49] <Martix> is here any Czech or Slovak?
[8:51] <Martix> prave jsem vytvoril sekci Touchbook na http://forum.openmoko.cz/
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[10:08] [freenode-connect VERSION]
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[12:04] <torpor> howdy folks.
[12:04] <torpor> anyone got 2009.11a installed?
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[12:53] <tommd1> torpor: Yes and I love it
[12:53] <tommd1> The touchscreen calibration combined with a good stylis (use the Gameboy DS one) makes writing really good, actually. I never expected the TB would be useful like that.
[12:54] <tommd1> Haven't had much time for it though - I've got three non-TB projects that need finished in under a month so right now is crunch time.
[12:55] <torpor> i'm dl'ing it now will install it tonight, hope it works.
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[14:16] <jvs> tommd, that sounds cool
[14:17] <jvs> hopefully I'll get mine next week
[14:17] <jvs> ds stylus you say?
[14:17] <tommd> Yeah, my wife got a DS and it had an extra. Its a lot better than the free one that came with the early preorders (not that I didn't appreciate that).
[14:18] <jvs> ah I see
[14:19] <jvs> hmm, it's hard to try out different stylus models
[14:20] <jvs> it's not like you can go into a store and say - gimme all models you have
[14:20] <jvs> I need to try them
[14:20] <tommd> When I first found out it could make a big difference which one you use thats exactly what I said to myself "How am I supposed to figure out what a good one is?". But lucky for me I found one.
[14:22] <jvs> tommd, but I appreciate that hint
[14:22] <TomMD-TB> No problem
[14:22] <Guest79208> Question: Are the magnets somehow shielded internally?
[14:22] <jvs> my brother has a ds, I'll try it
[14:23] <TomMD-TB> using it now
[14:23] <jvs> great
[14:23] <jvs> still, there is no place to put it though
[14:24] <TomMD-TB> Yeah, I considered dremaling myTB
[14:25] <jvs> hmm, dangerous
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[14:26] <TomMD-TB> Sure, but the payoff would be good
[14:26] <jvs> well, let's firt get the device
[14:27] <jvs> then destroy it
[14:27] <jvs> > tv, later
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[17:29] <tommd> I recall having to install binutils or some such to get a working gcc - which package was it again?
[17:32] <tommd> nevermind, it is binutils but I needed to ipkg update first.
[17:34] <tommd> humm... not that actually didn't do it... odd.
[17:34] <tommd> s/not/no.
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[23:39] <jvs> anybody here who already received his/her tb and is from Europe?
[23:44] <Corsac> yes
[23:45] <jvs> Corsac, how long did shipping take?
[23:45] <jvs> I mean, there is basic tracking, yes
[23:45] <jvs> but all I know is, that it has left the US :)
[23:45] <Corsac> hmhm, don't remember exactly, but like 10 days
[23:45] <jvs> I see
[23:45] <jvs> ok, cheers mate
[23:45] <Corsac> but no customs at all here
[23:46] <Corsac> basically, the usps tracking number is transformed in a local post tracking number after customs
[23:46] <Corsac> but in my case (and others I guess), nobody received the new tracking number :)
[23:46] <jvs> where are you from?
[23:47] <Corsac> paris, france
[23:47] <jvs> well, sometimes they get hold of you
[23:47] <jvs> sometimes not
[23:47] <jvs> whoa, great :)
[23:48] <gregoiregentil> USPS tracking number has usually information until it reaches the recipient (even if the local post office in the country of destination takes care)
[23:48] <Corsac> yeah but there're updated scarsely
[23:48] <Corsac> but when I got the package, there was a french tracking number on the box
[23:48] <jvs> Corsac, no customs? great. so you paid 260 euros?
[23:48] <Corsac> which was update more frequently
[23:48] <jvs> brilliant
[23:49] <Corsac> jvs: 306.24???
[23:49] <jvs> well, a bit more - but still, awesome :D
[23:49] <Corsac> (and now, going to work, see ya :) )
[23:50] <jvs> have a nice da
[23:50] <jvs> *da
[23:50] <jvs> argh
[23:50] <jvs> *day
[23:50] <jvs> :)
[23:59] <dpb> Yeah, the dollar have become much cheaper since then..
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