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[0:46] <nipuL> hi, how backlogged are the orders for these touchbooks, i placed an order in november and have heard nothing since
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[1:02] <topi`> nipuL: same problem, I placed on november 12nd
[1:02] <topi`> 12th
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[6:40] <tommd> topi`, nipuL: I heard that with the March batch the backlog will actually hit zero.
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[10:36] <phcoder> Has anybody successfully compiled and tested his own x-loader?
[10:41] <phcoder> gregoiregentil: Sorry for being annoying but does mlo file require any cryptographic signature?
[10:43] <gregoiregentil> no
[10:43] <gregoiregentil> it should work fine with what is in the git
[10:43] <gregoiregentil> just read the install-sd.sh script to see how it's installed on the card
[10:43] <gregoiregentil> it should be the very first file to be put on the first partition
[10:44] <phcoder> gregoiregentil: thanks, cool. I want to make a grub2 port to touchbook then.
[10:44] <gregoiregentil> That would be very interesting. I don't know if it's possible. Note that u-boot is quite important right now because some registers are correctly set up in u-boot. But this could be ported to x-load I think
[10:45] <phcoder> I actually thought of putting grub2's core.img into mlo.
[10:45] <phcoder> GRUB2 can set needed registers too
[10:46] <phcoder> Right now I'm working on grub2 for yeeloong and there initialisation code has to e.g. initialise DDR2 controller
[10:47] <gregoiregentil> If grub2 can be fast, that could be very interesting. I've never investigated this. When I discovered this ARM platform, the only thing I found was x-load+u-boot.
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[10:49] <phcoder> the main bottleneck in booting are storage device. If grub2 can get decent storage driver for omap3 it should be fast
[10:50] <phcoder> s,are,is
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[12:05] <DJWillis> phcoder: as long as you hash X-Loader with signgp.c and call it MLO so the bootrom finds it there is not a lot that tends to go wrong ;-)
[12:08] <phcoder> DJWillis: signgp.c just adds size and load address at the begining of the file. Unless you consider file size a hash there is no hashing
[12:10] <DJWillis> phcoder: well it's not a hash, checksum, turn of phrase I guess.
[12:11] <phcoder> DJWillis: I don't think it serves any verification purposes but as a load information
[12:14] <DJWillis> phcoder: I agree but as I also mentioned before, you only add that 'checksum' for NAND or SD boots, if you boot the device over Serial or USB client it has to be a non checksummed file.
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[12:15] <DJWillis> phcoder: I was only really just saying, remember to add it ;-)
[12:15] <phcoder> how does the bootrom know target address w/o those fields?
[12:17] <DJWillis> phcoder: something like an EOF is sent by the handler in both serial and USB cases (different for each of course but you get the idea), no need to know the file size, just take what your given and stop when full or EOF ;-)
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[12:18] <DJWillis> phcoder: target load address is the same ;-)
[12:19] <DJWillis> phcoder: you will also find a lot of people who know the OMAP bootrom well in #beagle
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[14:59] <bstag> hey mister special :>
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[15:07] <tommd> :-) Hey bstag
[15:07] <tommd> Waiting for my short bus so I can go home.
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[23:42] <Meluste> hello and good morning (at least in Europe) :)
[23:44] <Meluste> I've just discovered the touchbook and I'm verry interested on it
[23:45] <Meluste> just wondering how Ubuntu works in it
[23:45] <Meluste> anyone has any direct experience?
[23:45] <Corsac> fine
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[23:51] <Meluste> Corsac: I'm planning to use it in the university, what about taking notes and/or reading PDFs?
[23:57] <Corsac> I hjave to admit I don't use it much yet, it's still a bit rough, but eventually it'll be the perfect tool for that
[23:57] <Corsac> well, the keyboard might be a bit tiny but with some use it should be ok
[23:57] <Corsac> then you can type *and* draw easily
[23:57] <mongrelcat> it's not easy to use
[23:57] <mongrelcat> and it's certainly very raw
[23:58] <mongrelcat> but if you don't mind it being choppy, it's fine for reading pdfs and simple word processing
[23:59] <Meluste> what do you mean eith "not easy to use"?
[23:59] <Meluste> is that for the keyboard dimensions?
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