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IRC Log for 2010-04-23

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[0:12] <Simeon_H> what kind of power connector does the touchbook use?
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[1:56] <iscape> just wanted to say hi from my new touchbook
[1:56] <josch> congrats
[1:57] <iscape> in any casse, i like it
[1:57] <iscape> case*
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[2:15] <Eruquen> any news on the top battery status bug?
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[9:00] <iscape> just tried to update the tb for the first time.
[9:00] <iscape> i did the: ./install-sd.sh -o . -d /dev/mmcblk0 -f
[9:01] <iscape> but the sd card is mostly empty
[9:02] <iscape> only the ai-install.tbz , mlo etc have been copied to the fat partition
[9:02] <iscape> the ext2 partition is empty
[9:03] <iscape> am i missing something?
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[9:07] <Corsac> does it boot?
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[9:07] <acks> did you ls -lha ?
[9:07] <acks> in the ext2 partition?
[9:07] <acks> there's hidden directories
[9:07] <acks> there're*
[9:17] <iscape> thx, didn't cross my mind to look for hidden files
[9:18] <iscape> the ai squashfs is 0 bytes
[9:18] <iscape> so I'll just copy the stuff in there
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[10:14] <iscape> now it starts downloading everyting again ??
[10:14] <iscape> is there a way to reinstall fully from the SD card?
[10:15] <iscape> the images _are_ on the ext2 partition in .images
[10:17] <iscape> especially as the installer uses a slow server
[10:17] <iscape> can I not simply unpack the squashfs files?
[10:17] <iscape> kind of loop-mount and then cp -R ?
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[10:26] <iscape> is there any way to tell the installer to not use any network and simply take what it on the SD?
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[10:34] <iscape> is there really no way to get the whole system on the SD card from a laptop and then just boot without network?
[10:35] <iscape> the only way to reinstall is by having a wep wifi?
[10:41] <Meizirkki> yes afaik
[10:50] <iscape> someone here who can explain in a few lines how the installer is started?
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[11:04] <Aard> iscape: you can use the installer with already downloaded images. in your case, just copy the files from the sd-card to a location where the installer looks for them
[11:04] <Raedwulf> any news on the next batch?
[11:05] <iscape> Aard: i had them in .images but the installer reformatted the card
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[11:06] <iscape> or erased it
[11:06] <Aard> well, in that case you need to download it exactly once
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[11:40] <iscape_> where does the installer look for the squashfs images? I have put them on a usb stick and in .images to no avail
[11:41] <acks> the installer looks in the working directory iirc
[11:43] <iscape_> which directory is used as working directory?
[11:44] <acks> um... that would be the directory you're in at the time you run the installer
[11:44] <iscape_> hehe, nice misunderstanding: when the installer runs on the tb, where is it in?
[11:44] <iscape_> when i run it on the linux laptop i can tell with -o switch where to look
[11:45] <iscape_> but that had no effect
[11:45] <Aard> iscape_: just read the shellscript, it's not that hard to understand
[11:46] <Aard> I haven't been using the installer for months, I just copy over what I need manually. so I don't remember where it was
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[12:25] <iscape_> Aard: there is nothing in the shell script about the ai-all.zip
[12:25] <Aard> I don't think you need that. never seen it before, but I'd guess it's just a zip containing everything in case you're too lazy to download parts
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[12:44] <iscape_> the doc on the wiki says that this needs to be on a usb stick in order to avoid downloading all stuff from the web. however it doesn't use my stick
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[12:53] <Aard> as said, have a look at the script, that will help you more than the wiki doc. I can assure you that it's possible to not download images more than once
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[16:33] <adnyxo> can someone upload a video of the touchbook playing a hulu video?
[16:34] <acks> isn't that feature not coming back until next release?
[16:35] <acks> iirc, a version bump of the program that does the stream ripping is required for it to function...
[16:38] <adnyxo> im not sure
[16:38] <Corsac> don't have hulu access anyway :)
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[17:38] <alextisserant> it should work fine in 2010-03.a
[17:39] <alextisserant> but yes, in the US only unfortunately
[17:39] <acks> pfff, topic says that's not out yet
[17:39] <alextisserant> yes, we didn't make it "latest" as some things are broken
[17:40] <alextisserant> see http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/2010-03.a_errata
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[18:53] <Simeon_H> my computer is dying, so if I ordered a touchbook next week would there be a long wait?
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[19:10] <Maeslin> few weeks/months afaik, don't know if the waiting list has gotten shorter since I received mine
[19:11] <Simeon_H> do you have to pay the full amount straight away?
[19:12] <Maeslin> it's only billed when it's actually shipped
[19:12] <Simeon_H> oooh
[19:12] <Simeon_H> ok then
[19:12] <Maeslin> it's a nice experimentation platform
[19:12] <Simeon_H> what happens if my visa debit doesn't have enough money on it when they charge it?
[19:13] <Maeslin> I guess it bounces or refuses the transaction and you lose your spot in the queue?
[19:13] <Simeon_H> wow
[19:13] <Maeslin> or maybe you can contact them and get things cleared up fast enough
[19:13] <Maeslin> I have _no_ idea
[19:13] <Maeslin> you'd have to ask them directly or ask gregoire, he shows up on irc regularly
[19:14] <acks> alextisserant might know too
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[21:33] <Simeon_H> anyone tried running DOSbox on their touchbook?
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[23:03] <Simeon_H> alextisserant, you there?
[23:05] <Raedwulf> Simeon_H: technically it would be possible
[23:05] <Raedwulf> dosbox has a interpreted path
[23:05] <Raedwulf> so don't expect it to perform well
[23:05] <Raedwulf> because their optimised path is only for x86 and x86-64 CPUs
[23:05] <Simeon_H> well for X86 I guess it's opcode for opcode
[23:06] <Raedwulf> yea
[23:06] <Raedwulf> well vaguely
[23:06] <Simeon_H> for ARM you'd need more instructions
[23:06] <Raedwulf> you still have all the segments to deal with
[23:06] <Simeon_H> well I can run commander keen 4 on my PSP
[23:06] <Raedwulf> because it'll be mapping 16-bit mode segments to 32-bit flat address space
[23:06] <Raedwulf> yea, old games should run fine
[23:07] <Raedwulf> so anything before say 93-94
[23:07] <Raedwulf> should run fine
[23:07] <Simeon_H> I'll see if terra nova SFC will run, or maybe Crusader: No Remorse
[23:07] <Raedwulf> its when you start hitting games like red-alert and stuff
[23:08] <Raedwulf> i.e. games that had a minimum requirement of a 386DX(or was it SX) or a 486
[23:08] <Raedwulf> which ran in .... damn forgot the mode names
[23:08] <Raedwulf> anyways, those were the days
[23:09] <Simeon_H> I wonder how well eduke32 would run
[23:09] <Raedwulf> not played that
[23:09] <Simeon_H> I guess I'll find out when I get my touchbook
[23:09] <Simeon_H> it's a port of duke nukem 3d
[23:14] <Raedwulf> ah
[23:14] <Raedwulf> i played the demo of duke 3d
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[23:14] <Raedwulf> long time ago
[23:14] <Raedwulf> wasn't keen on it
[23:14] <Raedwulf> i was more into doom/doom2
[23:14] <Raedwulf> at the time
[23:14] <Simeon_H> which you can also play on the touchbook
[23:14] <Raedwulf> yep :P
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[23:14] <Simeon_H> with prboom
[23:15] <Raedwulf> oh cool, didn't know that, not looked into doom stuff for a while
[23:15] <Raedwulf> though one of my first things on the touchbook would be to get quake3 running
[23:15] <Raedwulf> im a urbanterror dev
[23:17] <Raedwulf> the mode names were something like protected real/unreal modes etc.
[23:17] <Simeon_H> you'd have to rewrite some assembly for quake3
[23:17] <Raedwulf> heh, before my time in computing knowledge anyway
[23:17] <Raedwulf> there's already quake3 ports that run on the beagleboard
[23:17] <Simeon_H> oh
[23:17] <Raedwulf> so shouldn't be too hard to get running
[23:18] <Raedwulf> ioquake3 has C-paths for the assembly stuff too
[23:18] <Raedwulf> so not too much of an issue
[23:18] <Raedwulf> but i only ordered on april 3rd, no news about the next batch yet
[23:18] <Raedwulf> heh
[23:19] <Raedwulf> hope to get it by June/July though
[23:19] <Raedwulf> sooner the better
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