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[5:09] <Pudabudigada> Hi
[5:10] <Pudabudigada> Is a smartbook just a MID with a large screen adaptor, or is it the MID and the touchbook together?
[5:11] <Pudabudigada> I.e: could one remove the MID and just use the tablet?
[5:11] <sipa1024> i don't think so
[5:11] <sipa1024> i believe the smartbook does not have a cpu, except for the one inside the mid
[5:12] <paulk_> Yes, the MID holds the tablet CPU/ram/...
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[5:13] <Pudabudigada> Ah, I would get just the touchbook then, thanks.
[5:14] <sipa1024> if you don't plan to use the mid separately, i suppose the only advantage is the usb-to-hdmi adapter
[5:15] <Pudabudigada> The Wiki says that the touchbook keyboard has that in it anyway.
[5:16] <sipa1024> aha
[5:16] <sipa1024> nice
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[5:16] <Pudabudigada> Also, where can I actually get one of these things? I'm in Britain.
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[6:51] <Pudabudigada> I was just reading that the MID can fit into the tablet, how is this different from the smartbook?
[6:52] <Pudabudigada> Wait, never mind, confusing description.
[7:00] <t_s_o> the solution is kinda interesting, as the same port is used for either the mid, or a board holding just the TI soc
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[7:16] <Pudabudigada> The product descriptions are very confusing, are there any differences with a fully assembled smart and touch book other than the smart's extra screen and webcam?
[7:17] <MatthiasF> no
[7:18] <Pudabudigada> So all the same applications, O/Ss will run?
[7:18] <MatthiasF> it's the same system
[7:19] <Pudabudigada> Oh, so the mini is just a miniaturised touch book?
[7:20] <MatthiasF> smartbook = SoC in the MID, touchbook = SoC on a naked board
[7:20] <Pudabudigada> SoC?
[7:20] <MatthiasF> system on a chip
[7:20] <Pudabudigada> Set of componants?
[7:20] <Pudabudigada> Ah!
[7:20] <Pudabudigada> Stupid me...
[7:21] <Pudabudigada> So what the smartbook tablet is is basically a docking station.
[7:21] <MatthiasF> yes
[7:22] <Pudabudigada> I'd want the full one then, thanks.
[7:22] <MatthiasF> https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/store/home.php
[7:23] <Pudabudigada> I'll wait until release to order one.
[7:24] <MatthiasF> that's probably a good idea ;)
[7:24] <Pudabudigada> yah
[7:25] <Pudabudigada> So what are the repos like for the three non-ubuntu OSs you get?
[7:25] <MatthiasF> I don't understand your question
[7:26] <Pudabudigada> The repositorys, for downloading programs
[7:26] <MatthiasF> yes?
[7:27] <Pudabudigada> I meant do they have the same sort of programs as Ubuntu.
[7:28] <MatthiasF> each linux distribution as it's own distribution system. AIOS is based on OpenEmbedded (.ipk), Android has .apk and what is the third OS ?
[7:28] <Pudabudigada> Chrome OS
[7:28] <MatthiasF> AFAIK, It's not released
[7:29] <Pudabudigada> Oh, it was demonstrated in one of the demo vids, must be an early version
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[7:31] <Pudabudigada> Anyway, what I wanted to know was do they have things like office suits, games, media players etc
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[7:33] <MatthiasF> Android is quite limited but AIOS is using Angstrom packages which have what you need
[7:33] <Pudabudigada> Most important ly, does it have Lynx!
[7:34] <Pudabudigada> haha
[7:34] <MatthiasF> I don't know, but you could always compile it
[7:35] <Pudabudigada> Wouldn't some of it need to be rewritten for different distros?
[7:36] <MatthiasF> no
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[7:37] <Pudabudigada> Oh, so all I need is source code and a compiler for my OS? Is it architecture indpendent?
[7:37] <MatthiasF> all distros are using the same software so they are compatible (there wouldn't be so many otherwise)
[7:38] <Pudabudigada> you mean all on the device, or all Linux distros in existence.
[7:38] <Pudabudigada> ?
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[7:41] <MatthiasF> all Linux distros in existence are similar
[7:42] <Pudabudigada> I know that, but some use different kernel versions, so I can't see universal app compatibility.
[7:43] <MatthiasF> yes, there are API/ABI incompatibilities
[7:44] <Pudabudigada> Errrr...
[7:44] <Pudabudigada> Application programming inteface one of them can be I think.
[7:45] <Pudabudigada> ?
[7:45] <MatthiasF> since this is not touchbook specific, If you're interested in the subject, I suggest you browse wikipedia
[7:46] <Pudabudigada> Yea, sort of went off topic, you answered my question, thanks.
[7:50] <Pudabudigada> Thanks, bye
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[10:22] <oxygen84> Hello -
[10:22] <oxygen84> Presumably the touch/smart book will be able to use it's own USB to HDML adapter for an external screen, does the adapter support 1080P resolution at lower frame rates?
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[11:20] <tommd> oxygen84: I've never heard of a USB video-out that can do any decent resolution with high frame rate. There is a limit to USB bandwidth (and latency / contention issues).
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[11:28] <tommd> so if I have this right 1080p = 1920x1080 with 24 bit color (8 bits for each RGB), that's 5.93MB per frame.
[11:28] <tommd> USB2 has a max bandwidth of 57MB/s so even under ideal operation (where you are bandwidth bounded, not CPU bounded) your talking about <10 frames per second. USB3 shows more promise what with 10x the bandwidth but still, talking to USB is a CPU intensive operation.
[11:28] <tommd> Just because you made me curious.
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[12:08] <kurtis_> holy crap, I have a huge problem with the new os
[12:08] <kurtis_> is anybody in here?
[12:15] <Mrkva> me
[12:29] <oxygen84> tommd: Would be much better with trivial compression, and 5fps would probably be enough for a some tasks. The other USB to HDMI adapters I've seen online support 1600x1200
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[12:40] <MatthiasF> Mrkva: still in the planning stage for your NAND system ?
[12:49] <Mrkva> MatthiasF: not really... doing homework right now
[12:49] <Mrkva> MatthiasF: quite a lot of math and presentation for an english class :)
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[13:11] <Mrkva> MatthiasF: but I think I'll try i the Qt way :) for once
[13:14] <MatthiasF> Mrkva: yeah ! I converted you :P
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