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[8:16] <paulk_> could someone tell me if the ti cortex a8 video acceleration requires non-free drivers/firmwars/blobs ?
[8:17] <_koen_> TI has stuff for neon that required non-free stuff
[8:17] <_koen_> but you generally don't need it
[8:17] <paulk_> all right
[8:18] <paulk_> so I can use the AI MID (MiniBook) without non-free software N
[8:18] <paulk_> ?
[8:18] <paulk_> (and keeping video acceleration)
[8:19] <_koen_> video accell using NEON, yes
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[8:22] <MatthiasF> but IIRC DSP cannot be used freely
[8:26] <_koen_> sure it can
[8:27] <_koen_> there's a gcc backend for it
[8:27] <_koen_> not a good one
[8:27] <_koen_> but it exists
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[8:27] <MatthiasF> ah ok, and what is the purpose of the gstreamer dsp plugin ?
[8:29] <_koen_> to be able to use the dsp for multimedia playback
[8:29] <MatthiasF> but it's nonfree AFAIK ?
[8:32] <_koen_> non free in what what?
[8:32] <_koen_> freely downloadable
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[8:32] <MatthiasF> I mean free as in opensource
[8:33] <sipa1024> free as in freedom :)
[8:33] <_koen_> you can use opensource codecs to be builtin
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[8:37] <MatthiasF> ok, it seems dsp-bridge is only half-free
[8:38] <_koen_> bridge is dead
[8:38] <MatthiasF> so which one is the good one ?
[8:39] <_koen_> syslink is the future, but the current 2.0 version is not as good as 3.0 will be
[8:40] <MatthiasF> but it seems to be OMAP4 only ?
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[8:47] <_koen_> no, it works on omap3 and omapl138 as well
[8:48] <MatthiasF> nice ! omap wiki needs to be updated then
[8:48] <_koen_> wikis are outdated by design
[8:49] <MatthiasF> by design ?
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[9:08] <MatthiasF> and SGX is still nonfree, right ? I'm not sure of anything, now :)
[9:08] <_koen_> non-free
[9:09] <_koen_> but it's not behind a login anymore
[9:09] <MatthiasF> that's good for distribution, but it doesn't help developers :(
[9:09] <MatthiasF> there is no project to RE it ?
[9:10] <_koen_> not that I know of
[9:10] <_koen_> and I don't care, since I do have the sources :D
[9:10] <MatthiasF> how come ?
[9:11] <_koen_> a /whois _koen_ should answer that question
[9:11] <MatthiasF> that's what I just did :)
[9:12] <MatthiasF> the problem is, I'm not sure wayland would work with SGX
[9:12] <MatthiasF> wayland needs to be able to share render surfaces between processes
[9:12] <MatthiasF> maybe WSEGL would be enough ?
[9:13] <Mrkva> _koen_: send me the sources to query :)
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[9:20] <MatthiasF> Mrkva: how is it going ?
[9:22] <Mrkva> MatthiasF: still has not sent me anything
[9:23] <MatthiasF> I meant your tiny system project
[9:23] <Mrkva> MatthiasF: well, almost no progress at all - right now, I have quite a lot of work at school
[9:24] <Mrkva> next week will be better
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[10:39] <paulk_> Is there any french people that ordered anything from AI ?
[10:40] <otaku> well, the founder of AI is french...
[10:40] <otaku> not sure he orders from himself though
[10:41] <otaku> i suppose you're speaking of people wanting shipping to france rather than people from france though?
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[10:41] <otaku> I know there have been plenty of EU orders
[10:41] <otaku> I'm not certain about to France specifically
[10:42] <paulk_> ok
[10:42] <paulk_> yes, I mean people wanting shipping to france
[10:43] <otaku> alextisserant may know better, but there have been plenty of people here that had their stuff shipped to various EU countries, so it shouldn't be a problem afaik
[10:44] <alextisserant> yes we ship to France
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[10:51] <paulk_> alextisserant: how many does it costs (aproximately) ? What about taxes ?
[10:51] <paulk_> I mean, shipping, not the price in ???
[10:53] <Mrkva> paulk_: for TB, I've been charged with 50USD for shipping to .cz
[10:54] <Mrkva> and some 20% of the price as a taxes
[10:56] <paulk_> so you paid 50USD + the price of the TB ?
[10:56] <paulk_> and that's all ?
[10:58] <Mrkva> paulk_: price of the TB. 50USD and taxes
[10:59] <paulk_> Does taxes prince depends on my country's taxes, the USA's taxes or both ?
[10:59] <paulk_> prices*
[10:59] <Mrkva> paulk_: your country taxes
[11:00] <paulk_> great
[11:01] <paulk_> so to calculate how much it will cost, I just take the specified price in USD, I add my countries taxes (around 20%) and the shipping, and that's all ?
[11:03] <Mrkva> paulk_: well, I was paying the taxes for TB incl. shipping. so taxes were for something like 1.2*(399+50)USD
[11:03] <paulk_> okay, thanks Mrkva :)
[11:04] <Mrkva> np
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[11:26] <MatthiasF> paulk_: I paid ~70E in taxes + handling fee
[11:33] <alextisserant> Please read http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Faqs
[11:33] <alextisserant> end of the page, starting at "What is the shipping cost"
[11:39] <paulk_> thank-you alextisserant
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